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I have now been a member of DeviantArt for a year and a half, and I was increasingly under the impression that people were favouriting my work for the sake of scoring themselves another pageview. I often visit people’s pages and find that they have pageviews coming out of their ears, even though their “artwork” is… well… not great.

So I decided to do an experiment. I made a new DA account and submitted some photographs that no-one in their right mind would think was a good piece of artwork. I then clicked on the ‘random deviant’ button at the bottom of the page about 50 times and favourited something from each persons gallery, no matter how good/bad the artwork was.

Now I usually have fairly high standards for my favourites, I will only favourite work that I genuinely think is good. But here I threw my standards out the window and favourited everything that came through the door. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that I only faved crap work. In fact, some of the things I faved in that account were very good, so don't go being offended if you were one of the people I faved. I merely faved all the newest deviations in an experiment to see how many pageviews I could get out of it.

Within the first hour of making the account and favouriting, I had 16 pageviews. Someone had even favourited my ‘murky water’ photograph that I had submitted, and 6 people had left me comments thanking me for the favourite I gave them. One person had even said to me ‘love your pics!’.

After the success of the first hour, I decided to fave some more. I went to the front page of DA and clicked on the twenty-four ‘newest’ deviations and favourited them all. I then refreshed the page and repeated the process. I now had approximately 100 favourites in my gallery.

Another hour later I had 82 pageviews, and another dozen or so comments. One person had sent me a note telling me that since I faved but didn’t comment on their work, they were going to add me to their friends list. Another person had favourited 2 of my deviations. I favourited a few more of the newest deviations, then logged out for a while.

I checked the account again about 3 hours after I made the account. My popularity had skyrocketed to 178 pageviews! I had 2 new faves on my deviations and a bucketload of new comments on my main page. I faved some more, I now had about 300 works in my favourites gallery.

Later in the afternoon, the friend I had made earlier had favourited my blurry ‘muffin’ photo, and had made me an animated muffin avatar! Also, my pageviews were now at 264! Time to favourite some more…

By now, each of my 5 terrible deviations had at least 1 favourite. My blurry 'muffin' had 3 different people comment on it. Three people had now added me as a friend. I had faved 448 deviations, and my pageviews were at 474.

At last, 7 and a half hours after I had opened the account, I managed to reach 508 pageviews. Even though my 5 deviations were pretty damn terrible, they had managed to get 7 favourites from other people.

So there you have it. I managed to scab over 500 pageviews in less than 8 hours. And even then I had only spent about 3 or 4 of those hours actually on DA. Conclusion? You don’t have to be a good artist to be popular on DA. As long as you spend an excessive amount of time favouriting a shitload of other people’s stuff, you can get pageviews.

Fave this deviation, and I’ll give you a pageview.
My experimental page [link]
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DelusionalLove Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
This is such a intriguing experiment....I often owner about this kind of stuff too. I also rarely do any favouring or commenting unless I actually mean it, and I spend most for my time on pixiv, where you get high quality work all the time. I think most of the time people don't really realised the "Fave this deviation, and I’ll give you a pageview." concept, and just automatically click on the person's profile to see what they're like. But I guess its true many do fav for the pageview/feedback.
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Red-Dragon-Lord Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2011
Interesting experiment. I have been to pages with 50k plus pageviews and mediocre deviations and I have visited awesome artist with low pageviews. Obviously this is an interesting subject considering the number of comments on this deviation
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pixini Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2010
Got here by Google searching 'pageviews' as page views are a complete mystery to me...
The numbers seem almost random :shakefist:
Reading the wiki etc. tech definitions makes my nose bleed... Things are a lot happier hiding in my cave not thinking about it...
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Toadsanime Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2010  Hobbyist Writer
Well, that's simply obvious.

You fave someone's artwork, and they'll go to your page to thank you or check out your own work. That's simple courtesy, and as you had faved so much of course you gained pageviews from it.

Apart from pageview-whores, genuine respectable people don't fave things for the sake of it thankfully; I myself am especially harsh with my faves and in almost four years of being here faved less than 200 deviations I believe.
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darkw1ng Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2010
I really don't give a damn about pageviews Im on DA just to show of my art and make freinds! (I made a lot of nice freinds on this site and Im still freinds with them today.) But still I find this interesting and quite sad to tell you the honest thruth.
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heysawbones Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2010  Professional General Artist
This is a bit of a catch-22, isn't it?

What if I want to favorite it because I like the experiment?

Will you assume I just favorited it so you would come look at my page?
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blazonja Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2010
Agreed, I just left dA because of this.
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Dylerith Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2010  Student Digital Artist
Wewt, this experiment must have been fun to do xP
It's sad that so many ppl only care about the pageviews :S
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Uni77 Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2010  Student Digital Artist
Ive been here for 2 weeks and have 1,000 page views and my friend has been here for 4 months and have 100 page veiws. XD Hilarious I'm trying to tell him to fave some things but he's like I dont like everyone's work tho. XD
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SmileyBlob Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2010  Student Photographer
I tried this by watching people :D ive got one photo of a piece of cake and around six watchers :D
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TheWorldIsASnowglobe Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2010
Well, I figured this was probably the case, but I guess it's kinda nice to know it, considering that I've actually managed to gain watchers purely from my deviations. Usually, I don't really care too much about a favorite, but if a person takes the time to comment, I usually feel much more accomplished, even if it wasn't favorite'd.

Maybe it's weird to say that a few sentence comment about liking it, and a specific thing or two that they liked is more valuable than a giant load of favorites, but it makes me feel like I've accomplished something. Especially when I look at their profile and find their writing to be fantastic as well. Good job, interesting project!
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Olalampa Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2009
well i am also tempted to fave too just because i think you are right about what you are saying. Honestly, i dont give a !@#$ about my pageviews or something. This isnt Art. This is offensive to the art. Thank you.
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Rorke Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2009  Professional General Artist
too funny.
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maunokki Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2009  Student General Artist
That's true, but I do not fave for page views, I fave because I like the work =) And sometimes I fave work that isn't so great, just to make the creator of it happy :)
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justjingles Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2009
Wow. Interesting experiment, thanks for sharing. It's refreshing.
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compxrock Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2009
I know what you're talking about, I once faved a lot, but it wasn't for page views, and I didn't even relize that I was spam faving untill someone told me. I really liked the peoples work. Now, I hope everytime I fav something, people don't always come to my page and thank me.
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Bratgoul Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
This kind of work amuses, interests, and intrigues me. It reaches to the depths of sociology, and I think you nailed it right : people love to be faved, and kind of pay you back when they come to write the "routine" thank you on your dA page.

dA is like a race for pageviews, at least, some people think of it that way. Really sad, in my opinion.

I now will press the dreaded favourite button, not because I want your pageview, but because I enjoyed reading this, writing this, and thinking about the matter for a while. And I think more people should be aware of this.
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21alpha11 Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2009
lol...yeah pretty sad, but true
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wondering-wandering Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2009
NOT faving just for a pageview, i love this idea!
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kathy100 Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2009
O_O Interesting~. Thanks for sharing your experience / experiment! :heart:

My two cents on this:

If it's only pageviews you want, you could do it a whole lot simpler. Any computer program / bot could reload your main DA page a bunch of times a day. And if you spread out where the bots appear to be coming from (using proxies), you could get an insane number of "pageviews" just from that.

Of course, the catch is that pageviews alone mean nothing. It's what's supposed to be BEHIND a lot of pageviews (many fans) that means anything. Which is also why getting pageviews from experiments like this is very very interesting, but ultimately kind of useless.

Most of the people who visit after getting a fave may give a pageview, and maybe even fave a work...but they won't be coming back.

Which kind of defeats the purpose :rofl:
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lilpixi Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
aaw i genuinely liked the doggie pic XD
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og2 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2009
:)
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laludia Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2008
Thank you for actually doing this experiment. It really gives a clear impression that pageview does not equal that artist is good. I really appreciate that you spend your time on this. I was really starting to wonder about the popularity. Again thank you. :)
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entropy-order Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2008
I usually do look at someone's page if they fav something, but I don't fav back unless I like of their pieces. I guess because this site is so big, you often only look at the people who come to your attention, or who are already popular.
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Leatra Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2008
Interesting experiment. I comment 2 times a day and i don't fav every deviation that i commented. I think that's why i have 264 pageviews. My first thought was not about quality of my art but about my popularity. Popularity RuLz on DA :D
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Neroshadow Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2008
This was very interesting to read. Yeah deviantart is just a popularity contest. What are you gonna do with a million pageviews anyways. You're definantly not the only one who sees this. Cool experiment.
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Neko-Oryo Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2008
Well done. I've always been curious about people who have a gallery with a few deviations that look like not much effort or care went into them, yet these people have thousands of pageviews and favs all over their work.
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Naixoa Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hahahaha, that's clever. Good experiment that, I'm glad somebody's done it.
Personally I don't come here for lit but it sounded too interesting! Nice one!
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nadare-sama Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2008
not faving this for the view.. i just think this is freaking awesome that you did that and that was the outcome. :)
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ashlea88 Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2008  Hobbyist Artist
hehe cheers, i'm glad you found it interesting!
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marylyn24 Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2008
so interesting, and so sad. >_>
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runingwolfin Featured By Owner May 29, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
:+fav: people need to read this more. I am picky about what I fav also. I liked reading this :D
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JRein Featured By Owner May 2, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
nice...

interesting.
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RockerLane1110 Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2008  Hobbyist Writer
Interesting experiment. Unfortunately, I think almost anywhere you go there's going to be those people who are only hunting for attention. Kinda sad.
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lulinix Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2008  Student Traditional Artist
I think it's very true... but it's also true that really good artits dont have to do anything to be popular .
Plus being popular because you are faving things you dont like must not feel as good as a well deserved comment, fav or watch..
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tuton21 Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2008  Professional General Artist
lol that's is really interesting ... i really hate the fact that people thinks that DA is a popularity contest ... nice investigation :)
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ashlea88 Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2008  Hobbyist Artist
glad you enjoyed it :D
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TysonLaFollette Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2008
You know you liked the avatar. XP

I never faved the blurry muffin.

And that's why you've been gone for like thirteen weeks. :( Glad we're friends.

You're right about being popular here though. All I'd have to do is fave and comment on millions of things and I'd be a huge favorite. I like to get views from my deviations more. You know, when you go to the gallery stats tab and it says that you have such and such amount of views and your deviations were viewed so many times. I've only got 900 views, but 800 of them are from my "art". (some of it's dumb... muffin avatar)

Glad this got solved. I suddenly don't like muffins very much.

And I had wondered if there might just be a tadpole or something in that stupid murky water! You cheated me of a two frame animated avatar and three comments... *pretends to be angry*

*leaves forever*
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killerfeeling Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2008
hahaha whoa!
who cares about the page view right? it's about who sincerely appreciates your art.
but after what i've just read, i think it's pretty hard to tell whether they're up to giving recognition to your work or up to gaining page views. which totally sucks.
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ashlea88 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2008  Hobbyist Artist
thats exactly right!
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killerfeeling Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2008
anyway, very nice experiment...i never thought of it that way...o_O
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ashlea88 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2008  Hobbyist Artist
cheers
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Rihsa Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2007  Student General Artist
Lawl.

Tis a sad truth. Oh well.
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Exactoman Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2007  Student Writer
Very interesting...
Could that be why I have 1000+? D:

Ah well.
:+fav:
GIVE ME PAGEVIEWS SUCKA D:<
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digital-Rat Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2007  Student Digital Artist
Very nice experiment! I don't see the big deal about having so many pageviews. I've always prefered getting worthy comments and meeting people of similar interests. I mean...that's what this place is (initially) about. So much for that. :/

I've noticed a couple people already come by my page, fav literally everything I had, watch me, and fav everything I submit after that. One never commented, and another always left a "Awesome work here" and that's it. I decided to go over to their page and check them out out of curiousity and found out they had a boat-load of pageviews, along with a ton of watchers and well....not that amazing of a gallery (personal opinion of course). ^^; I was quite confused.... I just don't get some people. :/
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ashlea88 Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2007  Hobbyist Artist
yep, thats exactly the kind of people i was trying to single out in my experiment. i've always thought it's better to get an insightful comment than a whole heap of pageviews but no good comments!
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tabun Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2007  Hobbyist Filmographer
Interesting experiment. I really don't understand the fixation some people have with pageviews. It seems that they fail to understand that a lot of pageviews doesn't always mean a person's art is good, just that a lot of people have visited their page.

I'd rather one or two people see my art every couple of months and leave meaningful comments, than have fifty morons visiting, expecting me to reciprocate with pageviews. I'd rather one or two people favourite my work because they like it, than twenty people who expect me to "return the favour".

I myself will only leave comments if I have something to say (more than two words and an emote). And I'll add a deviation to my favourites if I like it and think I'd view it again at a later time. This deviation falls under both categories...
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ashlea88 Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2007  Hobbyist Artist
exactly! pageviews doesnt mean quality work, so people shouldnt be judged by how popular their da page is. thanks so much for the comment and fave :) i'm glad some other people look at favourites and pageviews the way i do!
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Louisisthebest007 Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2007
I have made this a favourite this because you simply exposed how much of the popularity contest dA has become these days. Such a shame, but good work on the investigation!
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ashlea88 Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2007  Hobbyist Artist
it is a shame isnt it! :( i have noticed it while travelling around da lately, many people only care about your popularity, not the quality of work! thanks for the comment and fave :D
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